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To most Americans, feet are a very foreign object. Americans use their hands in American football, basketball, baseball and even ice hockey. Those ten toes are good for running, but that’s about it. It’s no wonder that most American children are raised to correlate
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In the States, football is king, but in urban centers where the next wave of Americans brings with them a love of futbol, you see the baseball diamonds replaced with soccer pitches. But, for soccer to be a major sport, like anything American, it has to evolve in its own organic way.
This isn't to say that we'll pick up the ball and punch it like the Irish. The traditional way of thinking is for soccer to really evolve in the US is if TV starts showing it more. NASL flirted with the idea of quarters for TV breaks. When the US hosted World Cup, they started the concept of running on screen TV banner ads during matches. Network talking heads openly talked about how they could show matches and make it economically feasible. But clearly with in game banners flashing away, etc. this has become moot. Just look at the EPL, the don't seem to have a problem with ad monies.
But really, the real way that the US adopts the worlds game is to adopt a world view. We still believe we can go about defeating anyone alone and our views carry the moral high ground. Politics aside, the election of Obama does suggest that the country is at the very least leaning in the direction of at least wanting to listen to the world. And with every child in the country getting his or her introduction to sport with soccer. The ground work is there already.
Is it Becks and Henry and other past peak world stars coming here that will push the envelope. Or perhaps is it top clubs playing more games here. or just a change in the cultural inclination of Americans... or is it that we have reached our saturation point of sport. Whatever it is, soccer will never be an American sport, and will always have a certain section to provide the blowback. MSL won't be the one to crack it. Perhaps the EPL gets smart and starts a showing games over here live via the internet. live with ads support... That is the sort of thing you have to do to break into a market. and it is the next wave.
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As a consequence, I'm not sure it is playing much of a causal role in soccer's unpopularity. I'm not sure people are turned off by the fact that people use their feet, but rather they are turned off for other reasons and diagnose it by pointing to obvious features of the game. It seems silly because the game strikes some people as silly, and thus the individual features seem silly.
In support of this interpretation I'd point to the steadily growing youth interest in soccer. It has become a very popular sport for kids, who have no cultural hang ups about the game or using one's feet. It's the older generation, and the kids they directly influence, who dislike the sport for whatever reason that harp on silly accusations like "use their feet" or "it's boring."
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As for bringing EPL games to the US, that is already done. With most cable and satellite cable services you can get FoxSoccer which shows about 60% of the games each week. If you have DirectTV you can get Setanta also and get all games almost every week.
Football is the largest and most watched sport on the planet. It is only a matter of time before we, Americans, get on that band wagon. With Bob Bradly at the US National Team helm we are currently a decent contender on the World Field so only time will tell. Maybe 2010 we can finally get out of the qualifying round of the World Cup.
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And let's face it, Americans are not exactly renowned for their love of walking....
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In all the posts over the 3 years I have been following your posts this one is the strangest! Did you eat something strange before you went to bed and had bad dreams about American's and feet, step on a nail, or stub your toe. I have practiced Ju-Jutsu for over twenty years and can choke someone with my feet! True, and proof that American's do not fear use of their feet. The relative lack of interest until recently in America in soccer has nothing to do with feet but everything to do with the American experience. The New World would have it's own sports and until globalization took hold soccer remained basically unknown. Thank cable TV and the internet and leave the feet alone!
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American lovingly refer to soccer players as 'foot fairies'! They make magic with their feet; ...wonder if that means they 'can't' use their hands...
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There is a misconception about the popularity of sports and only looking at TV popularity and not at actual participation. If you look at adult amateur sports I'd wager there's a lot more soccer & baseball than football, and virtually no full-pad football, mostly flag.
One of my preferences of soccer over football on tv is the continuous action. Football is 5-10 seconds of action out of each minute, while to stay with a soccer match, you need to pay more attention. Football lends itself more to the 'tailgating is more important than the game' much more so than soccer does.
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"But really, the real way that the US adopts the worlds game is to adopt a world view. We still believe we can go about defeating anyone alone and our views carry the moral high ground. Politics aside, the election of Obama does suggest that the country is at the very least leaning in the direction of at least wanting to listen to the world. And with every child in the country getting his or her introduction to sport with soccer. The ground work is there already."
I'm so sick of this nonsense. You know soccer and rugby were different varations on the same types of ball games being developed at the elite boys schools in England, right? (It's called rugby after the set of rules written down by the Rugby School, that allowed for carrying of the ball).
The folks who came over from England that introduced rugby to the East Coast colleges did a better job organizing and selling their variant than the folks who brought soccer over. And, huge shock, being an ocean away from Europe in the 1800s led to a different evolution of rugby/soccer/etc, just as happened in Australia.
This all comes down to historical accident. Soccer had it's opportunities but never really organized collegiately as well as American football did, or professionally as well as baseball did.
We share a border with just two countries, and they're two very large countries, and we're a very large country. And we weren't the dominant power in the world in the 1800s. What cracks me up, is the reason football is the world's game is that Englishmen were carrying it with them as they spread out around the globe. They introduced it to Europe, and South America, and Africa. Patrick displays his ignorance by claiming our imperial nature is what blocks soccer from taking hold in the United States, when it was England's imperial nature that spread it across the globe.
Focus on 1900s America's sphere of influence, Latin America and Asia sans China, and you'll see where our empire spread the gospel of baseball. It's the most popular sport in Japan, South Korea and Taiwan, as well as Cuba, the Dominican Republic, Venezuela, and Puerto Rico. Seeing as soccer has had a good century's head start, I'd say baseball is doing damn well.
The second ever baseball world cup is taking place this coming March with 16 nations competing. The Pittsburgh Pirates this week just signed the first two players from India (watch your back, Cricket). Australia and the Netherlands are now producing professionals in MLB, the world's top league (as well as Japan, South Korea and Taiwan).
And I have no problem calling it soccer. It always cracks me up when the British tabloids make fun of us for using that term, when its not our term, its their term, and was a name for the game when they exported it to us.
This stuff is all about historical accident and timing, and has a lot to do with how isolated our continent was in the 1800s with the prohibitive time and cost of trans-Atlantic travel, long before there was television or radio. Save the liberal self loathing of American culture.
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What I think a lot of people are missing is that football is actually hugely popular here as a youth sport (especially here in Wisconsin), so the disconnect is not within the youth systems, but rather with a professional league that has yet to fully develop.
The southern half of the States has the latin/Mexican influence that keeps soccer popular, whereas here in the midwest, the largely German/European heritage has rooted soccer pretty firmly. Now if we just could get the MLS to sprout out to more cities and get more games on national TV, it would only be a matter of time (and good marketing).
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http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~pstone/why.html
It is deliciously ironic that the English get so upset about Americans, Australians and others calling the game soccer when it was they who invented the word. I encourage you to remind an Englishman of this fact at every opportunity. It drives them mad.
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