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Re: The Dark Side Of Anfield That No One Wants You To See

jollyred — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 06:23:23 -0000

the area around the ground is run down, and so is the neighbourhoods reputation, with squatters drug addicts homless alcholics and genral disreputable sorts, scaring away the decent hard working people of the area.

hicks owns massive debt on the dallas star,s loosing 20 mil a yr, and owes debts on texas rangers and his other holdings as well as LFC the guy is defaulted on numerous loans and with his companies reveunes down almost 50 million pounds a yr, he is in sh-- street, if he cant refinance.

Re: The Dark Side Of Anfield That No One Wants You To See

Wepiory — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:12:49 -0000

Even if this idiot didn't know the houses where bought by the club you think he could have came to the conclusion that nobody wants to live next to a stadium that can reach 130.7dB of noise.

Re: The Dark Side Of Anfield That No One Wants You To See

John — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:36:58 -0000

Are you a professional?? Another on the Gangster who runs Chelski payroll or Man Ure scouse hater. Get a life.

Re: The Dark Side Of Anfield That No One Wants You To See

Si — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 02:52:04 -0000

The Gaffer, more like the Fluffer!!!

Trying to screen a swipe at Scousers in general behind a p*ss poor attempt at an intelligent piece of reporting... Gobsh*te!!!

Alan, stop fooking boring us with your pathetic attempt at sounding like some social study expert... Cut and paste doesn't make you a leading expert in the field you tool!!!

Re: The Dark Side Of Anfield That No One Wants You To See

Bobhorse — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 23:05:29 -0000

The very fact that not all the people reading this no the reasons as to why these houses are boarded up which puts even more ownership on you to ensure the facts are written and not rely on other to correct your poor effort at getting a response to a very poor piece of work and if that is the best you can come up with then you will be soon found wanting

Re: The Dark Side Of Anfield That No One Wants You To See

Chris — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 22:03:24 -0000

Many of these houses and streets have already been demolished as part of the wider regeneration process.

Re: The Dark Side Of Anfield That No One Wants You To See

Noblelox — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:42:30 -0000

I think you will find that these houses are owned by the club. Or is there just a culture of making stuff up on this site??

Re: The Dark Side Of Anfield That No One Wants You To See

Noblelox — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:35:20 -0000

So the fact that you are writing for non-residents gives you the right to make rubbish up and class it as factual? So I can write an article for people outside of the US claiming that everyone in America who live below the Mason and Dixon line have six fingers on their hands and sleep with their cousins, and because it's not aimed at you yanks, it makes it legitimate journalism?

Your writing was wrong in so many ways. There is hardly any poverty in Anfield, yes it's not rich, but it's not as poor as West Everton, around Netherfield Road. Anfield is just working class, apart from the empty houses you showed, many of the other homes in the area are well maintained, with all the roads restricted to RESIDENTIAL PARKING!!! I.E. they all own cars!!!! Hardly poverty. All you've done is looked at the boarded up houses and made your own judgement without a single fact to support you.

Re: The Dark Side Of Anfield That No One Wants You To See

Macker — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:33:39 -0000

What piss poor journalism. Have you ever been outside Manhattan and seen the dire poverty that exists in teh States? Shocking, and thrid world. I lived on the south coats until 1982 - i guarantee that parts of Pompey and Southampton are a damned sight more frightening than the rows of houses that LFC actually bought ! get your facts right, divvy....

Re: The Dark Side Of Anfield That No One Wants You To See

Noblelox — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:22:07 -0000

I'm sorry, but when did it fall to football clubs to "help the situation" with urban regeneration? What other club has regenerated their local community? many may have sold the old stadium off to house builders, but that's for profit, not to help.

Quite how you can defend the article beggars belief because from it's sinister title to it's woeful fabrication of rubbish, it is just run of the mill, anti-Liverpool bile My god if you want to see an area that was desperate, you should have gone and had a look at Maine Road while it was the home of Man City, that was a real nasty dive. It made Anfield looks like West Kensington or Knightsbridge!

Overall I have to laugh at American's trying to come across as authoritative about social issues in Liverpool, I bet none can even find it on a map!

Re: The Dark Side Of Anfield That No One Wants You To See

Alan — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:07:42 -0000

The houses are not owned by the club. These are properties which are in the merseyside low demand housing Pathfinder. The same conditions occur in Sandwell (Birmingham), New castle and Gateshead, Sheffield, Hull, Manchester and Salford, Rochdale, Oldham and areas like Pendle. I guess that Liverpool has the misfortune of low demand right by it's world famous stadium where people from all over the world come to see. It's a post industrial phenomenon - once occupied by industrial workers, the closure of industry since the 1950's, increased social mobility and increasing wealth, enabling most people to exercise their choice to move to better accommodation, has led to areas such as Anfield, declining, particularly since the 1980's. Nothing to do with Gillett and hicks I'm afraid !!

Re: The Dark Side Of Anfield That No One Wants You To See

Chris — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:16:41 -0000

26%? Can you back up that ridiculous figure?

Re: The Dark Side Of Anfield That No One Wants You To See

Martin — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:30:07 -0000

I actually live in Anfield; I have a nice house with a garden and close by a huge park. It’s very quite apart from match days but as I'm in the ground thats not a worry. As pointed out the houses shown are awaiting redevelopment, this is a frustration to the residents and to people who could make good use of these solid built houses. The delay in the ground development is holding up the area regeneration, this is not a new thing but been going on for about 10 years now so the club, local government and government agencies are all guilty. The houses shown had families in until not to long ago but as the work grew further and further away people moved out but due to the redevelopment people did not move in and the houses fell in to the state shown here.
I work all over Europe and I must be honest most cities have areas awaiting redevelopment or have just become a bit run down and unfashionable but normally these are tomorrows up and coming locations.
If you want to see how the areas is regenerating take a walk down Anfield road to Tancred Road, the houses there are a great example of what happens when people believe in and fund regeneration. A whole street of empty run down houses almost fully rebuilt and now families moving in. This was an expensive scheme but one which shows that people are willing to fight back against their surroundings we just need the people with the money to allow it to happen.
In conclusion this is a piece that is not new its not even shocking but at best is unbalanced and biased. I am a Liverpool Fan and do feel let down by the Hicks and Gillette empty promses but not just for footballing reasons but also for the further delay to teh creation of what was and could be a great area..

Re: The Dark Side Of Anfield That No One Wants You To See

Peter — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:19:59 -0000

i live in north wales and support Liverpool the city has good and bad but in general the people are warm and welcoming funny and helpful unlike when you visit Manchester it has in general miserable angry people.

Re: The Dark Side Of Anfield That No One Wants You To See

Paul Brosnan — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:01:58 -0000

Try walking around around the old Orange Bowl in Miami or even the new American airlines arena in Miami or the L.A coliseum in Los Angeles and the ever famed Yankee stadium in the Bronx, now that shit is enough to make you scared of walking down a street alone and i know first hand, I am born and bred in Liverpool and currently living in Philadelphia and having witnessed the aforementioned stadiums Liverpool has nothing to worry about as the people are what matter most and 99.9% of the people who read this will agree Scousers are the most welcoming and warm hearted you will ever meet.
My biggest gripe with the article is not the first 30 words but the fact that you choose a first hand experience based on a visit in 2006 ???????????
Am i the only f*cken idiot who thinks this strange, If your ploy was to gain hit's to your article then i fear you have won, if i come back and read your next attempt at 2 year old journalism then shame on me.
Brozzo.

Re: The Dark Side Of Anfield That No One Wants You To See

thegaffer — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:01:47 -0000

Billy, don't be a wanker. I took the pictures myself. Here's one of them, which shows the date when the picture was taken: November, 2006:

http://tinyurl.com/684f4s

Cheers,
The Gaffer

Re: The Dark Side Of Anfield That No One Wants You To See

Billy Bullshit — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 12:16:43 -0000

LIAR - LIAR

The pictures are taken a lot later than 2006.

Re: The Dark Side Of Anfield That No One Wants You To See

John from Lpool — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 12:13:48 -0000

i think I'll write an article about the residents of New Orleans, abandoned by their country and government, because they're poor and predominantly black.

Who cares if I don't visit and get my facts wrong! I'll still get some hits and feel important!!

What a joke of a post!

Re: The Dark Side Of Anfield That No One Wants You To See

Paul — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 12:07:52 -0000

Liverpool has a self pity attitude that keeps them in the gutter!!!

If they go out to work and make the most of their life instead of thinking everyone picks on them they would improve the citys image which to be frank is crime ridden, chav and lazy ie 26% unemployment says it all!!!!

Re: The Dark Side Of Anfield That No One Wants You To See

Weston — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:50:07 -0000

My point exactly - you disagree with that one point but agree with the rest of the article...so what is the problem exactly?

Like the Gaff said, most of the readers are outsiders like me who otherwise wouldnt have any clue as to the economic environment of Liverpool, so when you say 'tell us something we dont know" , that is exactly what he is doing to the non-british audience here.

Re: The Dark Side Of Anfield That No One Wants You To See

redmen — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:03:24 -0000

what a pathetic article. do some research in future. prick

Re: The Dark Side Of Anfield That No One Wants You To See

Chris — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:59:28 -0000

'Gaffer',

The head line in itself is skewered. Has anyone at Anfield tried to hide these homes from you? Who exactly doesn't want you to see these homes? Your headline is sensationalist. Your article is about two things, a real journalists article, and derelict homes.

You don't really mention anything constructive of your own opinion, merely jumping on Conn's bandwagon. The only thing you've put across is that you were scared to walk past derelict houses on your own. I don't really understand your point, why are you telling us you were scared? Why didn't you mention that the homes are club-owned for regeneration and safety reasons? Why do you think no one wants you to see the homes? Why do you refer to homes that nobody lives in as a state of poverty?

You might as well go to Ground Zero and talk about the poverty there, It would be shocking to all us folk who don't live round there.

Cheers,
Chris

Ps. I hope you got someone to walk past the houses with you.

Re: The Dark Side Of Anfield That No One Wants You To See

gary — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:53:59 -0000

I have been to anfield many times, the area is run down like many other parts of old working class areas in england . Look at other football clubs also in working class areas, you will see the same sort of pictures of boarded up houses and shops. This is not just a liverpool thing. Its a problem all over the world. I have been in many US citys, just look at the areas they have built there, their baseball and basketball stadiumsare also in working class areas but the people who live there would not live anywhere else. So please dont slag off my beloved ANFIELD .gary from Dublin ,Ireland.
p.s get rid of them 2 american twats.,

Re: The Dark Side Of Anfield That No One Wants You To See

thegaffer — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:17:39 -0000

Lads,

Not all of the people reading this blog happen to live in Liverpool, so to read about the poverty and state of the houses directly behind Anfield will be quite surprising to many readers outside the UK (which are the majority of readers to this site).

I stand by the headline and the article I wrote. Yes, I know that Liverpool FC own many of the houses but I included a link to David Conn's article which had a lot more detail about the homes.

Cheers,
The Gaffer

Re: The Dark Side Of Anfield That No One Wants You To See

scousenotenglish — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:10:34 -0000

West one, if you read the posts it isnt the articles content we disagree about but the lack of investigation the writer has put into the piece. The "one line" you refer to though, if it had been included, would have made the article clearer and more truthful. The "lazy, half arsed attempt at journalism" as I described it came from the headline, a blatant hook to get clicks on this site. Liverpool is a poor city? Tell us something we dont know fer fecks sake.Whisper it quietly but the majority of cities in england have run down areas where, god help us, some houses may be boarded up! The "gaffer" as he ridiculously calls himself would do well to avoid most cities in england as they are similar and we wouldnt want him to get "scared to walk past the houses by myself". Sensationalist claptrap from a not very bright author.