EPL Talk - Latest Comments in The 6+5 Rule Would Radically Alter Football, But Not in a Good Way

Re: The 6+5 Rule Would Radically Alter Football, But Not in a Good Way

Richard — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:52:47 -0000

It's a ridiculous rule. The reason why the premier league is the best league in the world is because of the number of foreign players.
And England aren't doing poorly now because we don't have enough English players in the league, that's completely irrelevant. If they were good enough, they would get in the teams.

Fifa are idiots.

Re: The 6+5 Rule Would Radically Alter Football, But Not in a Good Way

Michael D — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 15:20:35 -0000

This is the best, clearest, and intelligent argument against this rule I have heard yet. Quality.

Re: The 6+5 Rule Would Radically Alter Football, But Not in a Good Way

Anonymous — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 17:27:46 -0000

How is this not just a further refinement of the current immigration rule that a foreign national play in 75% of their country's matches, as a mechanism for regulating who a team can acquire? While this is a rule in the UK, and I'm unsure if there is something similar across Europe. But all it does is limit the maximum number of international players available to the top European leagues, to the benefit of other European teams that can't afford to keep the players they develop. This seems like it would provide stability to teams that are largely becoming feeders to the largest clubs in Europe. But I certainly see the downside to those clubs accustomed to buying players from the world over; I'm just not that concerned with it.

Re: The 6+5 Rule Would Radically Alter Football, But Not in a Good Way

Shakira Graham — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 13:27:52 -0000

I personally think its a good idea, you can have as many foreign players on your squad as you want, as long as thier are a number of that countries players as well. Perhaps 6 is a bit too much but I see nothing wrong with this system You look at teams like Arseanl who are English in name in and Stadium only. If England can't produce enough players then its simple change your academy and youth systems taht arent working plain and simple. I know I'll probally be slated but good for FIFA...for once.

Re: The 6+5 Rule Would Radically Alter Football, But Not in a Good Way

Michael — Sat, 31 May 2008 20:03:05 -0000

Agreed about the salary cap, Dan.

Re: The 6+5 Rule Would Radically Alter Football, But Not in a Good Way

Dan — Sat, 31 May 2008 19:57:45 -0000

This is stupid players want to go where the money is just like you and I want to go where the money is. Its unfair to tell players what to do. If they feel more comfortable at home and don't care about the money then they can can make that choice. Don't force them to.

A salary cap of sorts would be the most logical way to create parity and teams with more money could pour it into developing youth and facilities.

Re: The 6+5 Rule Would Radically Alter Football, But Not in a Good Way

Michael — Sat, 31 May 2008 19:01:36 -0000

When I go back and further and read what you wrote more closely, Betsy, I see your point, but I think you're feeding right into Ty's argument. It's employment, no matter what you say, and there are labor laws preventing discrimination of any kind. If someone has the credentials to play soccer for a club and that club wants them, it shouldn't matter what country the player hails from. That DOES have to do with EU law..

Re: The 6+5 Rule Would Radically Alter Football, But Not in a Good Way

Michael — Sat, 31 May 2008 18:55:58 -0000

Betsy, you're completely wrong..

The act of signing a contract for money for service in return constitutes employment. The minute a player puts his name on the dotted line for x number of years for x amount of money, he becomes their employee. Just because it isn't a traditional desk job means nothing; soccer players are professional employees to whatever club is paying their wages.

Re: The 6+5 Rule Would Radically Alter Football, But Not in a Good Way

betsy's bolton bum baster — Sat, 31 May 2008 18:49:22 -0000

they are paid to train with the club. they are not paid to play. coaches decide who plays and who doesn't.

for example hilario, a reserve goalkeeper at chelsea, is employed by chelsea. but he never plays. playing has nothing to do with employment.

Re: The 6+5 Rule Would Radically Alter Football, But Not in a Good Way

tyduffy — Sat, 31 May 2008 18:13:36 -0000

And since the government is taxing them for their efforts, one doubts that they are in a hurry to reclassify it.

Re: The 6+5 Rule Would Radically Alter Football, But Not in a Good Way

tyduffy — Sat, 31 May 2008 18:12:36 -0000

Football players perform a task and are paid a salary for said task. How is that NOT employment?

Re: The 6+5 Rule Would Radically Alter Football, But Not in a Good Way

betsy's bolton bum baster — Sat, 31 May 2008 18:11:06 -0000

that's another thing wrong with the british system. freaking put your egos aside and consolidate the damn FA into a UKFA and UK national team and most of the issues surrounding the problems in that nations football will be solves.

Re: The 6+5 Rule Would Radically Alter Football, But Not in a Good Way

betsy's bolton bum baster — Sat, 31 May 2008 18:06:55 -0000

i don't think it is discrimination. playing for a football club does not constitute employment. a player can still be on the bench and not play, playing on the actual pitch in an actual game has absolutely nothing to do with EU law. it is strictly a footballing matter.

the rule does not completely ban foreigners from playing. it will be the rule in EVERY country so how is that discrimination?

i do not think it will cheapen the quality of the game. simply there will be much more competitiveness from countries that continually produce talent but happen to lose it due to poor pay, etc. such as france.

a country such as england would undoubtedly suffer....so i would suggest they do as the germans did and try to reinvent their style of football as well as change the youth development system.