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Daily News & Analysis of the English Premier LeagueSky Sports Commentator Andy Gray Joins ESPN Euro 08 Broadcast Team | EPL Talk
Started by The Gaffer · 10 months ago
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I can't wait to see Andy Gray!
Cheers,
The Gaffer
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dead on. He told it like it is. Fandel had a dreadful match and had me wondering if the Italian penchant for max fixing extended beyond Seria A. I'm glad teams like Greece and Italy have been dumped. Four years ago the result was a dreadful pox on quality entertaining football who's resonance seems finally to be abating. 11 large men behind the ball and hope to nick a goal on a bought foul is terrible to watch.
Thank you Andy Gray. Thank you for whining when players go down like they've been shot when there is barely contact. Thank you for calling bullshit when a player looses his footing on a quick turn and is called for diving. Thank you for pointing out that Ballack fouled on his goal v Portugal and showing us how the same offense was called two different ways in the box depending on the team. Thanks for pointing out the lunacy of a different set of rules for inside and outside of the area. Thanks for not talking about Onion bags and poking at your co's nationality.
Thank you Thank you Thank you
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Sucker...
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One more thing. What team do you root for?
England or Scottland? ha,ha,ha,ha.
Sorry... couldn't help it. I just noticed you didnt mention it. So I tought it would be one of those loosers teams.
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" Stuart, watch the games carefully, and notice that all players from all teams fake falls"
too true. Such a shame. And why? Because cheats get away with it. So, why not. Toni, a rather large man, gets a tap on the ankle and he goes down faster than your mom after I've bought her a cocktail and whines more to boot.
" we are champion, of the world…" true dat. But not of Europe (a harder tournament) sucker.
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the end came and went and so did ITA at the hands of ESP, or did you not see the game?
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hhahahaahahaaha!
" Spain has never won anything and never will."
careful. First part is demonstrably false (European champions in the sixties), second part is looking dicey. Teams better than Italy? Well, according to the results I'm looking at, four of them in the semis at the moment. Unless of course your talking in terms of match fixing.
"So, you don’t know shit." You've yet to demonstrate that directly.
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Jou just did demondtrate that you know nothing about this game. ( almost like the guys I work with) Now, that is insulting. 1960's ... we are in fucking 2008 dude. When I'm saying (won anything) I'm comparing to the big studs like Italy and Germany. Did you watch Spain against Russia today? (3-0) , or a Germany team that has played cup cakes throughout the tourney? Seriously, Or I'm done talking to you. Do you seriously think besides Spain, any of those teams would stack up with us? I'll have to admit Spain is a pretty good team. With Pirlo and Gattuso in there, I would have taken my chances. Now you wonder why a jack ass like Andy wouldn't understand why Donadoni based his game plan the way he did. I would have been a litlle bit more daring, true, but look at what happen to Russia.
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Pussy.
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With regard to the Italians, yes they didn't come out playing very exciting football. But lets be honest here, if Spain miss one of the penalty kicks and Buffon saves one of them,we would be sitting here talking about how great the Italians are. And at the end of the day, they are world champs.
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- Italy ranks second behind Brazil in terms winning the World Cup and that's not bad company in anybody's book.
- No other European country has won more
World Cup championships than Italy period.
-The Italian National Team was never involved or charged with any match fixing scandals , so get your facts correct and do us all a favor.
- Review the statistics of any major tournament the Italians have been involved in internationally and they are consistently designated as the team that commits the least fouls.
- to compare the Euro Championships with the World Cup is ludicrous and asinine. There isn't one winner of the Euro tournament that wouldn't trade it for the World Cup Title !
-Stuart you must really be an Italian Hater to write such vitriol and actually believe it.
-I'm not pleased with Italy's approach to the game against Spain and yes they've been eliminated and the coach fired but the bottom line is that Italy is still the reigning World Cup Champion until 2010 whether Stuart likes it or not.
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Listen, you've got to be consistent. First you claim history is on your side as ITA have got a bit of hardware on the shelf. Fare game. They do have a rich history. But then you say nothing counts if it's in the past re: ESP. So, please, pick your ground and argue from it. Otherwise, I just write you off as another partisan hack who knows nothing about the game and just calls it as it lays for your team. Also, as per recent history, ESP are one goal away from smashing the other half of your claim re: never winning anything.
Who am I rooting for? Same team I was before a ball was kicked this tourney: ESP. Which has nothing to do with the discussion BTW. Check your premise and your logic at that one.
"Did you watch..." I've watched every kick of the ball this go son. So I saw ITA in the group stage V NED with Pirlo and Gatussa on the pitch get their asses handed to them. I'm not faulting Donadoni on his game plan but if you check that premise you have to say ITA is not so awesome because they had no options with Pirlo on the bench. As you so clearly demonstrate, no depth, no choice. No depth to me means not a great team. A Team with no depth, and as such, no options, needs a bit of luck to go through. No way RUS would have beat NED without Arshavin. No depth, not a great team. So, do you need me to recap the record of ITA in this tournament, you know, goals for and goals against in order to refute the concept of their greatness? As you so astutely point out, what have you done for me lately? They come away with a -1 GD. To quote you again "we are in fucking 2008 dude". Thanks for the tip.
Sanjay, fair play but "if Spain miss one of the penalty kicks and Buffon saves one of them,we would be sitting here talking about how great the Italians are" Not me sir. Just as I did not sit around talking about how great a squad Greece had four years ago. Still, Buffon is my favorite 'keeper in the world.
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paragraph by paragraph
1: ad hominem, disregarded
2 & 3, correct but also statistically redundant.
4 true, but, well, culture and all that.
5 hard to foul when rolling around sniffing for them, or just plain not getting called for shit pulling in the box.
6, correct via what a player might want but can you really feel you are good squad when you beat Trinidad and tobago and then Saudi Arabia in order to advance beyond the group? Less Argentina and Brazil, the Euros are the creme de la creme.
7 see 1
8 i've got no issue with that. Last I checked this was a discussion about the Euros.
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Thanks, John Paul for telling this dude, you have to be born champions. It just doesn't happen suddenly. Good luck with your Spaniards.
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A Esp fan , uh..
This is what you said earlier.
"I’m a neutral for this go but re: ESP v ITA I sure weren’t hoping the Azurri scraped another scoreless draw to PKs. Boring, negative, gutless"
It proves what I tought about you. You are like a Flag. Blow whichever way the wind blows.
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so, just to recap...
have I ever played? Yes. I've been playing for 35 years.
"you know nothing about this game"
and yet you said also said re: spain
"Spain has never won anything and never will."
whereas I picked them to win. Ouch. I mean, Ouch!
Well, ITA are fine side and best of luck to your boys in S.A..
I'm out, smiling.
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So another question for the avid fans of Spain and Italy on this string-why dont Spain and Italy fans travel to international matches? They are notoriously poor at following their national teams away from home (not as bad as the French but almost.) Ive heard that with Spain its because of the Basques and Catalans etc and the country not being united so the whole country isnt behind the team. With Italy I've heard that some regions dont support the team but have never really understood it-there doesnt seem to be much history that I can think of. Italy didnt even take up their allotment of tickets for the last World Cup. How do I know?-I was sitting in the seats of the Italian footbal federation surrounded by a load of suits. The Italian end was pretty quiet other than booing the US national anthem. Comparing the Spanish and Italian fans I would say that the Spanish are definitely louder. They cheer their team on while Italians prefer to whistle when the other team has the ball rather than get behind their own team.
It will be interesting to see what kind of turnout there is for South Africa. Its really expensive and supposedly unsafe. Will probably be the usuals of Brazil, Argentina, Holland, England and Germany with a good following. Tickets are being sold to South Africans for $1 each so the black market should be active.
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“Spain has never won anything and never will.”
whereas I picked them to win. Ouch. I mean, Ouch!
I’m out, smiling.
You are out all right: out of your f...ing mind.
Have some balls and tell me your nationality.
I hope your are not british. If so.. you got no room to talk. Capello is your coach. Couldn't find an English guy good enough to coach? I have a feeling you are british because of your arrogance.