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Karl — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 10:16:52 -0000

Club size is not merely driven by silverware - if so then Portsmouth are the second biggest club in the England!

Other fans attempt to mock the Geordie faithful - by suggesting they are not a BIG Club due to our lack of success ; this simply highlights their limited intelligence.

To arrive at this opinion without taking Turnover/Profit into cosideration is ridiculous!

3rd Biggest Crowd in league - without any success

5th Largest Turnover - without any success

Not a big club - are you having a laugh !?!

PS: alreet MALA - hows OZ ?!?!

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Karthik Balasubramanian — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 00:35:46 -0000

No personally I think it was a great article. I thought Michael did a good job identifying some key problems that the toon have. I think u might have had an easier life if you dint talk so much about the fans :). But hey, thats what we are all here for right? we write our opinions and if Michael feels he wants to compliment the fans of Newcastle and also talk about some of the tough times the fans are having now, he is entitled to do so.

Also, right now, the way Newcastle is being run, the fans seem to play an important part in how the club is run - starting from the appointment of Keegan.. So no preview about Newcastle would be justified without a comment about its fantastic fans..

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Mala — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 23:01:52 -0000

The title of your article states preview that is what you should stick to...I have no problem with the preview part of your article......it is the rest of it that makes you sound as conceited as Ronaldo talking about Real............dont forget it was only 24 months ago that the man u fans wanted rid of ferguson and were in uproar a lot of them ACTUALLY wanting allardyce!!!!.........just goes to show if you listen to the man u fans it will go wrong ha ha ha
Take it easy.....I will look forward to you review at the end of the season.......maybe you will focus on 1983-4 season :?)

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Michael — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 21:36:03 -0000

Also, Mala, I did a preview, that's what you're commenting on..the whole thing is a preview!! Karthik added on to it, which was great, but I discussed tactics and their lineup and their strongest area and their schedule..

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Michael — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 21:34:28 -0000

The thing is, Mala, I don't listen to any of those pundits, I don't watch any of those pregame shows; I form my own opinions based on what I see on the field.

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Mala — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 21:07:04 -0000

Karthik,

Thank you for your comments……. What you have done is a preview…….. Looked at the squad, seen it for what it is and predicted that we will struggle……… I agree……….. At the same time you made no reference to any off field rubbish or past failings……… Amazingly a preview is exactly that……….. Looking at where you are at and looking forward to predict what happens.

Michael,

I apologise almost unreservedly. But, you must understand that "the overall feeling" of Geordies is somewhat different to that of what "the pundits" would have you believe.
Go to Newcastle enjoy a few beers and some nightlife ask about what the real fans think.

Allow me to put it another way......you are going to be on the TV for an hour prior to kick off......30 minutes to talk about NUFC and 30 minutes to talk about their opponents…..... Such is the state of the boardroom and their horrendous decisions they lay out material week after week…….. Assume that you are lazy and want to fill the time with comments……… What would you do? Probably the same as you have done here……..which is the same as Andy Grey or whoever else……... Ramble on about all the rubbish that is going on………. Instead of looking at the most likely team the tactics they can employ, where the main battles will be etc.....
The fact that you listen to all their rubbish [which is mainly based on third hand information of the rubbish that does go on!] you would conclude as you have done. [that is still not a preview]......To prove my point even further......with the demise of Fat Freddie and his side kick Douglas Hall........all of the stupidity and continuous foot in mouth remarks have disappeared......so without that constant stream of lazy journalism all they can come up with is Ashley wants to sell........he probably went to India or wherever so he could organise some cheap clothing line for his sports shops.....and suddenly we are selling to some rich guy......and so the merry go round continues. Newcastle will always be a fish bowl the fans cannot do anything about that. Do not chastise them for that which is out of their control.

Anyway which ever team you support enjoy what is to come……no one knows what is to come and that is why we watch it…..isn’t it?

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Michael — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 15:07:40 -0000

I'm not confusing the two at all -- to me, they're one and the same.

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Jackie — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 14:43:33 -0000

I'd have to agree with Hep. It seems you are confusing 'big' and 'successful'

Newcastle United are clearly one and not the other. Even drunken Geordies know they've been shite.

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Michael — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:57:11 -0000

No, that's impossible. The only way a "big club" can exist is through winning and continued success. Newcastle has done none of either in over a decade, and they weren't even in the top flight for some time in the '80's. Fan support is great, but that's not what makes a "big club".

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Hepstyle — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:22:45 -0000

"Big Club" is pretty ambiguous on its own. Some Big Clubs are Big Clubs because they're in the top four. I would dare say that Newcastle are a Big Club in their own right if only because their fans ARE so loyal. Perhaps we support a Big Club that refuses to play like one?

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Michael — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:29:50 -0000

John, I was actually complimenting Newcastle fans in a way, but criticizing them at the same time. It's great that they come out to watch their team every week no matter what, but they're misguided in thinking their club belongs in the same sentence as England's best. Maybe you're not one of them, but trust me, I've heard way too many Newcastle fans try and convince me they support a "big club".

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john poulson — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:16:10 -0000

wtf, what newcastle supporter has gone running round town braggin bout the intertoto cup ya f in wank. gluttons of punishment?? what choice do we have as supporters, we dont run the team if we won every year would that make us gluttons of victory just because our fans dont turn coat at the drop of a hat. f off you prat.

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Phil McThomas — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 15:30:55 -0000

When newcastle* wind up in the Championship next season, I'll be leading the conga line.

* - Not a typo, they just deserve a capital letter.

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Michael — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 12:55:10 -0000

I'm with you, Karthik, but Newcastle played their best last season with a 4-3-3 and 4-3-1-2, so I can't see why Keegan would mess around with what worked.

They have plenty of players who can play on the flanks, it's just a question of whether or not Keegan will use them.

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Karthik Balasubramanian — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 12:42:49 -0000

But.. they also need 2 Holding mid's to bail out their ridiculous defense.. Getting Coloccini must be a priority..

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Karthik Balasubramanian — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 12:35:59 -0000

I think they would be better off with a 4-4-2.. its been too many times that the toon have been outplayed in midfield.. your formation of 3 midfielders with 3 holding mids will leave the forward line isolated.. especially I dont trust Viduka and Owen are very good coming deep to get the ball..

Newcastle desperately need some width.. Geremi and Butt can add some steel in the midfield, but they are not too creative going forward.. They really need their creative wingers to play.. Milner/Gutierrez and Duff/N'Zogbia must play. Otherwise I see a complete lack of creativity in there..

The toon also need a creative attacking midfielder for home games where they can try to play with just one holding midfielder

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so true — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 11:48:16 -0000

such an accurate description of newcastle and its fans its scary. i salute you michael for coming out here and telling it like it is.

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Simon Burke — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 11:12:10 -0000

I was listening to BBC's the Monday Night Club and Ray Parlour, Steve Claridge and the host all fear for Newcastle a bit, plus the takeover saga surrounding them makes me think this is anothe reset season for Newcastle. Keegan must be peeved at the offseason progress. The squad listed above looks light to me and a bit on the old side too. I hope Newcastle do well however, one of the sides I like but I just think they are going to get off to a miserable start.

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Chad — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 05:30:36 -0000

He's not kicking the Geordies. He's accurately explaining what every supporter other than those of Newcastle think of the club. Newcastle has some the best support, but the club's trials and tribulations are well known. Don't 'kick' the writer for realistically portraying the state of the club...unless you really think Keegan is the future or that the Intertoto cup counts as a respectable piece of silverware worth mentioning.

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Mala — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 04:21:51 -0000

I would Love it if we beat Man U !!!

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Mala — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 04:02:38 -0000

Clearly written by a Man Utd Fan?????

Starting your "preview" by kicking the Geordies is a sure fire way to ensure they will not read nor respect your opinions. Why don't you go and eat another prawn sandwich and concentrate on supporting which ever team is winning.

Taxi to London anyone?