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I would not put much stock in anything he discusses.
LETS START OVER.
Imagine it’s Saturday, August 15 2009. This is not just any Saturday, though. It’s the kickoff of the 2009/2010 Premier League season. Leeds United has been promoted back to the big league. Manchester United are playing their first match after selling Ronaldo to Real Madrid. The site formerly known as epltalk.com doesnt exist anymore. The Gaffer, the dodgy crystal meth addict, imagining he's watching television, is just staring out the window from his room at a drug addiction treatment center.
GAFFER? ARE YOU JOKING? EITHER THAT OR YOU ARE ON THE HEAVIEST DRUGS KNOWN TO MAN. SUGGESTING SOMEONE WILL LOSE HIS JOB? THATS NOT RIGHT. IF YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO RUN THAT TRASH ON YOUR SITE THAN I CAN HAVE THE SAME RIGHT TO SUGGEST THAT YOU WONT BE AROUND THEN. I MEAN THE MAN'S WON 3 TITLES. THE MAN'S GOTTEN TO THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE FINAL. THE MAN'S WON A DOUBLE. THE MAN'S TEAM HAS GONE A SEASON UNDEFEATED AND IT LASTED TO 49 GAMES. 49 GAMES. NO ONE ELSE HAS MANAGED HIS TEAM TO ACHIEVE THAT. YOU WISH YOU COULD BE IN HIS PLACE INSTEAD OF YOUR SHADDY LIFE LIVING IN FLORIDA IN SOME SNAKE INFESTED DUMP WHERE YOU SITE 20 HOURS AROUND A COMPUTER AND RUN SOME BLOG YOU CLAIM IS THE BEST IN THE WORLD. ITS ONLY READ FOR THE NONSENSES THAT IS WRITTEN ON THE SITE. YOU HAVE NOTHING ORIGINAL AND YOU DONT EVEN NAME YOUR SOURCES FOR ALL THE NEWS SITES YOU GET YOUR INFORMATION FROM. ITS PLAGIARISM. KEEP DREAMING "GAFFER".
Anyway, I think the idea would be FABULOUS! They probably won't even need to have an ESPN3 because there are no sports locally that begin before noon in the States. Most morning programming is foreign sports or golf. It could be a bit crowded though so then I would understand an "ESPN3" or "ESPN World", etc. It would be grand!!
I have been very happy with the ESPN productions for Thursday night MLS games. It's a quality broadcast with a style and substance that appeals to the American audience. Here is a key factor for the quality of the broadcast for ESPN, have your announcers in the stadium and not in a studio. Part of the feel of the game is lost otherwise. That has been the problem over the years with it's Champion League coverage. A studio voice can not give you the feel to the crowd, the players, or the town.
So I am looking forward to 2009 and also expect a HD broadcast!
Also I cant stand ESPN coverage - i like a few of the commentators, Mike Hill and TOmmy Smyth will do (Hill carrys it though) but I cant be dealing with Eric Wynaldo and Juie Fowdy and that hateful Italian fella who detests Wynalso, Georgio Canales or something...
Those folks all depress me and must be kept far away from the coverage - their half time coverage of the CL is dire too - 4 talking heads spouting a line each in turn between commercial breaks....
Also - the high def issue is a problem as the originating feed isnt in high def I gather from Sky..
As to the MLS, the more the American public is exposed to good soccer the better for the domestic league and the USMNT. Interest will grow and demand for better players locally will grow. The MLS season is for the most part in the English off season and ESPN only shows a Thursday night US prime time game currently which does not conflict. And if were talking about ESPN3 there is room for everybody, including the Italian and Spanish leagues.
I read something a couple months ago (wish I could find it now) that ESPN were looking to buy Setanta. Not sure where that whole thing is now...haven't seen anything.
Anyone know how long the current broadcast rights contact for North America is for? I seem to recall one was recently signed and in effect for 2 or 3 years. It wasn't that long ago that Fox was buying it weeks before the start of the season and then reselling matches to Setanta. However, now with Setanta having a full-time channel (not just PPV) there was a recent bidding war...well more than one bidder.
Good heavens. Someone seems a bit defensive and has a severe lack of humor.
It's a bloody joke. I'm not making predictions. I'm just trying to paint a picture. Arsene Wenger is a brilliant manager, but it doesn't mean he's going to be at Arsenal forever.
Not sure why you've got your knickers in a twist. I don't plagiarize. Often I do my own interviews with people to get the news direct from the source (such as Setanta Sports and Fox Soccer), so if you think I plagiarize, prove it -- otherwise don't make accusations when you have no evidence.
If I do use sources for my articles, I attribute them to the source nine times out of ten (take the pictures of the football shirts, for example).
Lastly, I don't claim EPL Talk to be the best in the world, so stop making stuff up.
Geez.
Cheers,
The Gaffer
I hope that FSC expands their coverage possibly putting some games on FSN too and re-negotiate the deal with Setanta NA so they would get first choice of games in america
I can't see Fox Soccer Channel being able to outbid ESPN for the TV rights, which will be up for bidding before the 2009/2010 season. The rights are getting more and more expensive. If anything, I see Fox having less Premier League coverage in the future rather than more. And I don't see them taking Prem games off Setanta and putting them on FSC. This is purely conjecture, so I may be wrong.
Cheers,
The Gaffer
I can't see Fox Soccer Channel being able to outbid ESPN for the TV rights, which will be up for bidding before the 2009/2010 season. The rights are getting more and more expensive. If anything, I see Fox having less Premier League coverage in the future rather than more. And I don't see them taking Prem games off Setanta and putting them on FSC. This is purely conjecture, so I may be wrong.
Cheers,
The Gaffer
A second game is a likely if the price is right but it would have to be an early weekend start. A lunchtime UK start again does not conflict with
any American sports event. So, instead of repeats of sports center at 6:00am CST in Chicago on a Sunday morning, why not a EPL game, but the audience will be limited at that time so the cost for ESPN has to be right.
FSC and Setanta will be left to carry the centerpiece games of the day. So, things get only better!
For those who think EPL would improve on the ESPN3 - look at what ESPN did with ESPN Classic Channel. ESPN bought the Sports Classic Channel about 10 years ago - stating that they would improve/expand the Classic Channel with more sporting events in the past (more boxing matches with Muhammed Ali, Michael Jordan games at North Carolina, etc). With so much potential with such a large sport library. ESPN pretty much killed ESPN classic by putting on roller derby and bowling matches. ESPN has stopped all new funding and new shows on ESPN Classic
I could see ESPN3 putting on scores of games on the ticker box below for games they'll show for the first time on tape delay and ESPN3 cutting away from the soccer coverage for ESPN Updates every 10 minutes. Also I imagine ESPN3 would only show matches featuring the Big4 being almost a ManUnited & Chelsea Channel (i'm a tottenham fan) so we won't be able to see the Portsmouth/Aston Villa, Everton/Man City, Newcastle/Tottenham or even Fulham/ WestHam matches featured much on a ESPN3 channel
Anyways feel better Gaffer and i hope you start putting on more podcasts in the future. Your interviews are some of the best on the net.
cheers, richard
Good responses. I can't vouch for ESPN, so it's possible that they could do worse, but the most important thing about that network is the penetration they have in U.S. homes. Setanta fights a constant battle to get on cable systems. With ESPN, the Premier League could be more mainstream overnight.
Even though Rupert Murdoch owns Sky Sports and Fox Soccer, that doesn't have any relevance or give him an advantage in the States. When the EPL TV rights are up for bidding in the U.S., the winner is the one who offers the most money.
Fox Soccer Channel is known for having very tight budgets. With the rising price of Premiership TV rights, the only way they could afford to have them (as well as the other leagues such as Serie A, MLS, etc) is to have sub-license the content to Setanta. That's a main reason why Setanta picked up Monday's 3pm ET slot from Fox, I believe.
Hope that helps.
Cheers,
The Gaffer
You watch the Premiership Clubs and people that run the league will really play up the fact they got the league on North America's biggest sports network if they get on ESPN when the new contract comes up. I have seen some of the coverage from Asia of the Prem on ESPN's Star Sports and they do a really good job. I have no doubt if they get the league they will do the property right and not try to Americanize it too much but leave it as it is. World Soccer and the Premiership are unique to the American Sports Audience leaving it that way would offer fans something different. I can see Glaizer, Hicks, Gillette, and Lerner really pushing to get the league on ESPN as they understand what ESPN means to sports in America.
1. FOX Soccer Channel can't afford to keep EPL by itself.
2. Setanta is losing a lot of money around the world, including the U.S. and Canada. Those losses can't go on forever
3. GolTV is still losing money and can't really afford EPL on its own.
That leaves only one company that can afford to blow $30 million a year on U.S. TV rights to EPL: ESPN
ESPN Classic, which goes to about 60 million U.S. TV homes, gets about $72 million in U.S. cable/satellite TV subscriber fees each year (assuming 10 cents per subscriber per month), roughly the same amount of money FOX Soccer Channel gets with its 30 million U.S. cable/satellite TV subscribers (at 20 cents per subscriber per month).
The ONLY way the FAPL will be able to squeeze $30 million a year out of the U.S. market is to get ESPN involved, as both FOX Soccer Channel and Setanta have reached their "threshold of pain" and neither can pay much more for EPL.
With that said, I think John Skipper is completely out of his mind if he were to convert ESPN Classic into "ESPN3" (now that ESPN won't buy Setanta and covert Setanta Sports USA into "ESPN World") and stuff the EPL on "ESPN3".
Bottom line: even with the alleged "growth" in audience for EPL in the U.S. in recent years, EPL still draws an 0.2% national household rating (normalized to the national TV household count of 110+ million households) on FOX Soccer Channel, which happens to be the same 0.2% household rating that EPL got on ESPN2 in the 1997-1998 season before FOX outbid ESPN for the product.
EPL, in my opinion, belongs on a premium subscription service such as Setanta Sports USA, with the exception of one game each week on a digital sports pack channel such as FOX Soccer Channel.
Notice the EPL broadcast model in Canada: one game each week on The Score (which is the primary rightsholder), one game each week on Rogers Sportsnet, and the other 8 games each week air on Setanta Sports Canada (which is co-owned by Rogers Communications). That model actually makes sense.
ESPN STAR Sports in Asia, despite the "ESPN" branding, is operated by NewsCorp, not by Disney/ESPN.
ESPN STAR Sports is a corporate sister of FOX Sports, not a corporate sister of ESPN.
ESPN Inc. (Disney) does own 50% of the ESPN STAR Sports joint venture, but Disney/ESPN have no day-to-day management responsibilities of ESPN STAR Sports.
What are the chances if ESPN does get the Premiership Package and gets the Saturday 12:15pm Eastern Game if they farmed a couple of games a year to ABC? Of course they would pick the most prime game involving 2 of the Big 4 for it to work. I could again see the owners of the Premiership Clubs licking their lips at the idea of getting a couple of the biggest games on Network TV here in the States. During the fall ABC doesn't pick up Collge Football until 3:30pm. Some ABC Stations do pick up the local syndicated rights to the ACC, SEC, Big East, Big 12, and MAC League Football Games at that time but most fill that period between the end of the network kids shows and the Pre-Game of the College Game with paid programs and syndicated bundles of weekend programs.
Just throwing that idea out there if ABC does do a good number on todays Netherlands/Russia Game and the Final next weekend.