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- Iain who? exactly worst piece of garbage i have heard in my entire life? two european cup finals in the space of three years, how long did it take Sir PinkNosed ferguson to win his first european...
- Michael Timbury is obviously a mug with no brains
- if any thing this proves that who ever wrote this article is racist as he clearly generalises both sets of supporters which is a racist trait
- I agree he was always a defensive coach but the point he has simply become so entrenched in his 'holier than thou' single-minded beliefs, that there is no way back. If Liverpool ever win...
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Daily News & Analysis of the English Premier League
Despite Liverpool’s impressive turnaround in their Champions League group and an unbeaten record in the league until their recent losses against Reading and Man United, Liverpool has given their fans much more hope this season of lifting the Premier League title than in previous years.
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Hello!!! we are already a top 3 sides for the last two seasons !! we have big holes ???? you must be kidding me, we need three class signings to remove ManU from the top, the holes are left back, left wing, and a striker.
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I would agree Kuyt is not the "lethal" striker Liverpool needs. He has the attitude and endurance to run thru the whole match but does not provide the kind of threat Torres (finishing, pace & agility), Crouch (height) & Voronin (pace) provides.
If Pennant comes back, they'll be a formidable side again. Come May 2008 and you will be surprised. Just mark my word.
As for Jose, he doesn't have the characteristic of a Liverpool manager. Benitez has it. Cool, composed, & most importantly HUMBLE. I wouldn't trade him for ant other manager. Period!
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Can you suggest ONE manager better than Rafa? (And don't bother saying Mourinho, who is an overrated eogotist)
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I have to say I am not stunned at your reactions. Here you are, total idiots to the game. Why is that you may ask, well lets state the simple obvious...all you care to do is slag this piece and yet you yourselves cannot write one intelligent response in reply. It is people like you who give Liverpool an extremely bad name.
Best bet, until you can come up with an intelligent response, keep quiet. It'll make you look much smarter than you appear.
1 year ago
Benitez MUST be given at least this season and the next. We are severely missing ALONSO and Agger. Liverpool will be a different team with those two. Kuyt is among Rafa's favorites and that is hurting us...
We were missing width on Sunday-Kewell is not there yet after the injury, Babel is not there yet because of his youth...
Crouch must be given more chances. But to say that Rafa is not the man is too soon. A couch must be given at least 5 years before he is judged on whether he is the man for the job or not. Let us wait and see what happens in 2007.
1 year ago
How can you write of Rafa like this. After just 3 years. It's not like we haven't got anything to show for it now is it.
Can we have some comparisons made please. For instance, can you honestly tell me that Sir Alex or Wenger made the impact that Rafa has done in their first 3 years at their clubs ? Jose may be a bit different here, but its amazing what an instant almost unlimited amount of funds can do to a side...
1 year ago
I don't think there's any excuses left for Rafa. This is HIS team now; these are all HIS players and there's no holdovers from the Houllier era that he didn't want. He's spent a large amount of money to shape the roster in the way he wanted to, and you would think that they'd be able to compete for a Premiership title and not just the Champions League. As I've said before, the CL is just the luck of the draw and you just have to score more goals over two legs, not necessarily be the better team. The PL is a test of endurance and will and over 38 games, separates the wannabes from the true contenders. Under Rafa, Liverpool have not been able to make a run at the title.
I understand that injuries have set Liverpool back this year, but that's no excuse either. The injury bugs hits every club at some point or another during the year; Man U were without Rooney and Hargreaves for a while, Chelsea are without Drogba and Terry right now, Arsenal lost Fabregas, van Persie, and Hleb for a period of time. You cant blame poor performances to injury; Rafa has more than enough depth to cover for those injuries, the team just hasn't played well.
1 year ago
Don't know what your sources are for this statement mate, but it is grossly wrong.
Fact. Man Utd spent more this past summer than Liverpool.
"CL is just the luck of the draw"
another brilliant statement from an obviously extremely knowledgeable 18yr old. Keep up the good work there son.
1 year ago
Poor little scousers... You got hit with several bricks this week and as far as The Prem goes you aren't singing anymore. (Liverpool's Champions League exit comes in the first knockout round, by the way.)
I can understand Pool fans' loyalty to Benitez, even if it is somewhat blind. I found lim peh's post particularly amusing (I do give him massive credit though for actually putting a name on his post, unlike the other blind losers). "We have big holes??? We need three class signings to remove ManU from the top." I certainly hope you aren't thinking this is going to happen in the January window. If so, here's a news flash: It Ain't.
I agree Rafa has to finish the campaign. But I also know owners and boards don't care what managers did two years ago, they care what they did in the current season. If you doubt this, ask Martin Jol.
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As for this ignorant comment "CL is just the luck of the draw". Last season we beat Barcelona (really lucky to draw the previous Champions) & Chelsea. In 2005 we beat Juventus, Chelsea & AC Milan, it seems like we are real lucky getting the best teams in Europe.
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Fernando Torres: $40.6 million
Ryan Babel: $23 million (hasn't been able to crack the starting XI consistently)
Yossi Benayoun: $8 million
Lucas Leiva: $16 million (he's played in four matches this year, FOUR)
Daniel Agger: $12 million (three seasons ago)
Javier Mascherano: close to $40 million if they're going to make that deal permanent, which they will.
In terms of value for money, Liverpool haven't gotten what they paid for. Manchester United spent a lot of money on Nani, Anderson, and Hargreaves but have gotten good returns on those players. If you'll notice, it was Anderson and Hargreaves who completely neutralized Gerrard and Torres on Sunday.
The CL is the luck of the draw!!! The group you get drawn into is simply luck, it comes out of a pot. There are things like country protection and seeding, but the other teams in the pot are drawn at random. Liverpool barely managed to get out of the easiest group in this year's Champions League. Who you play in the Round of 16 and Rounds of 8 and 4 is also just the luck of the draw. In the Round of 16, there's country protection and seeding, but teams have a possible 4 or 5 or 6 opponents, whatever the number is, and then your opponent is randomly selected. It's the same way in the Rounds of 8 and 4, your opponent is picked from a pot. It's just luck who you draw; you may get an easier graw, you may get a tougher draw, whatever, the point is it's all chance.
Yes, statesidescouser, I will keep up my good work actually. I couldn't care less if you insulted me, your opinion means nothing to me and I know that what I do is good, especially for my age. It shows how immature and childish you are when you resort to personal attacks like that. Keep responding with your arguments and I will continute to prove you wrong each and every time.
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You've listed money spent on players (including one from 3 years ago when we were apparently talking about recent spending), but neglected to include the money we made off selling Bellamy, Cisse, Garcia etc.
Now do the math on that and compare it to the $100 mil Man U spent on 3 players this past summer.
Want to list the price paid for Nani, Anderson, Hargreaves .... hmmm and you haven't paid for Tevez yet have you ?
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This is very much his team now and your performance at home was poor this weekend and you were poor at home against Arsenal who you held to a draw but should have lost to. Chelsea you should have beaten but for all the talk of bad reffing it has to be said you got that back when you robbed Everton. I will give you 3 for Chelsea but I will take all three off you for Everton.
Rafa is counting the cost of the draws with Portsmouth and Birmingham and his capitulation v Reading where he took off his best 3 players.
As for money, you cite United but look at Wenger, he has made money this year, bought in just 2 players this Summer and we are top. (Yes I am a gooner and I like Liverpool as I hate Chelsea and United). Wenger has shown by good tactics and scouting that money isn’t necessarily everything. Benitez has had lots of money and has a huge squad yet he can’t maintain a serious title run it seems. I haven’t written you all yet but I think you are too brittle to put together the 10 game winning streak it will now take. For that matter I think Arsenal are too but we won’t need such a streak thankfully as we are still top.
As for CL - I think it’s tough to win no question and you have beaten some great teams but it’s easier to win a cup than a league. If the CL was a true league I think you'd be found out. Instead you do very well in two-off games where your fanatical support raises your team to great heights. Clearly though over the course of the season you are getting found out too often. Benayoun and Kuyt arent quite of the standard to play against United - you are players short but Rafa bought both of them so is it Rafa's fault? Can you blame injuries - Arsenal have missed Van Persie/Hleb and Fabregas and we are still just about top. United missed Ronaldo and Rooney early on but they are still there at the top. You have enough players to cover I feel as your squad is enormous. If anything it may be too big and players are suffering as a result. I wouldn’t say Rafa out but at the same time you can’t make the case that he has brought Premiership success. It really is about time Liverpool seriously challenged - you are good enough.
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I can see Rafa leaving of his own accord this Summer - lets see what actually happens with transfers this coming window. Maybe Rafa should just coach what he has.... daft thought I know :)
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Manchester United wasn't the point of this original discussion and for further reference, they're not my favorite team. They've spent a lot of money on Hargreaves, Tevez, Anderson, Nani, etc., but they've also gotten a lot more out of those players than Liverpool got for their money. United spent $34 million on Hargreaves, $34 million on Anderson, and $28 million on Nani. The difference is that Nani and Anderson are younger and have much more upside than anyone Liverpool bought with the exception of Torres, and as I said before, Hargreaves has proven his worth with the way he shut down Gerrard and does the same to other teams' attacking midfielders, like Lampard at Chelsea. Tevez and Rooney are the best striking duo in the Premiership and in Europe, while Torres has been a bit injury-prone and was hampered by Rafa's rotation policy for the first part of the season.
Look, I'm not getting into it with you comparing Manchester United to Liverpool, the evidence lies in the standings where United are ahead and went undefeated in the Champions League group stage. The point of Chris' article was how Rafa is no longer the right man for Liverpool, and he's correct in saying this. Mourinho may well be Liverpool's next manager come this summer, because if Rafa doesn't win the Champions League, he's on his way out.
All I'm asking you to do is to take off your Liverpool blinders and look at the club from a neutral perspective. They've spent a lot of money and not gotten the results; Manchester United and Chelsea spent money as well, but at least they've won with the players they've gotten for that money and United look good to win the double this season. Liverpool need a more competent Premiership manager; Rafa is top-quality in Europe but that shouldn't be the team's goal, they haven't won the league since '89-'90.
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11 points out of 63 - that tells its own story!
It shows that it has nothing to do with the quality of players that
Rafa has been moaning about but Rafa's lack of premier league expertise
when it comes to the big premier league teams - Liverpool will be nothing
but a cup team under Rafa - is that a good thing? Rafa will always be
respected for his Champions league success but we will never win the
premier league if we cant beat the top three teams.
Liverpool 1-1 Chelsea 19-08-2007
Liverpool 2-0 Chelsea 20-01-2007
Chelsea 1-0 Liverpool 17-09-2006
Chelsea 2-0 Liverpool 05-02-2006
Liverpool 1-4 Chelsea 02-10-2005
Liverpool 2-3 Chelsea 27-02-2005
Chelsea 1-0 Liverpool 03-10-2004
P 7 W 1 D 1 L 5
Liverpool 0-1 Man United 16-12-2007
Liverpool 0-1 Man United 03-03-2007
Man United 2-0 Liverpool 22-10-2006
ManUnited 1-0 Liverpool 22-01-2006
Liverpool 0-0 MancUnited 18-09-2005
Liverpool 0-1 Man United 15-01-2005
ManUnited 2-1 Liverpool 20-09-2004
P 7 W 0 D 1 L 6
Liverpool 1-1 Arsenal 28-10-2007
Liverpool 4-1 Arsenal 31-03-2007
Arsenal 3-0 Liverpool 12-11-2006
Arsenal 2-1 Liverpool 12-03-2006
Liverpool 1-0 Arsenal 14-02-2006
Arsenal 3-1 Liverpool 08-05-2005
Liverpool 2-1 Arsenal 28-11-2004
P 7 W 2 D 1 L 4
PLAYED 21 WON 3 DRAWN 2 LOST 16
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This site has always had a clear anti liverpool slat. Its clear "The Gaffer" is no fan of liverpool. Past comments and barbs prove that. Whats sad is he has to resort to putting up something totally stupid like Rafa has to go just so he can get hits on his blog. No respectable Footie site would post this trash
1 year ago
I call it as I see it and I have no axe to grind against Liverpool. Some of my family still live in the city, not far from Walton Breck Road.
But I prefer to be impartial since I don't support any Premier League teams. If you've been following me long enough, you'll know I don't despise Liverpool FC.
In fact, I probably focus on the Reds too much (to the detriment of other clubs). A perfect example of this is that the last 3 EPL Talk Podcast episodes have featured Liverpool fans. This wasn't planned, but it's obvious that I have nothing against the Reds or their fans.
Cheers,
The Gaffer
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Since then, it's been one Champions League and an FA Cup in all the time Rafa has been at Liverpool.
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Sorry if I was a bit misleading there.
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