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Re: Benitez Burns His Bridges

lfcland.com — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 02:58:19 -0000

Hey m8, this is the worst article i have ever come across. Please try to compose yourself when wrtiing an article. shit knt
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Re: Benitez Burns His Bridges

Brian Mchugh — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:11:25 -0000

Pasul Bestall has got to be a Martin O'Neil nom de plume. Every time you use " Liverpool " in the subjective, your subsequent word is seem. This is a ploy used by a writer who is short on facts and literary backbone. Furthermore it is gramatically shoddy. I cannot alter your obvious abhorrence of LFC because it will be borne by gealousy and I can't change history but I can offer a tip when you put pen to your heartfelt hatred.......borrow a thesaurus.

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RafaTheRed — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:04:44 -0000

GodVilla 25% of your article was good!!! the other 75% is utter drivel!!!

Benitez an average lucky manager?
2x Spanish title
1xUEFA Cup
1x FA Cup
1x European Cup
1x Super Cup
Semi finalist in Champions league 3 out of 4 years! (including another champs league final)
1x carling final (not really worth mentioning).

So because he has not won the Premier league he's an average manager? and also because you have shown 1 season of improvement your now certain to continue the improvement into the top 4 this year?

Martin O'neill
2x league cup (though that wasn't worth mentioning!!)
Oh I forgot he won in Scotland! - but hasn't Gordon Strachan just won 3 in a row? So that makes Strachan a great manager!!! Didn't Souness win in Scotland and Walter Smith!!!

arrogance; an attitude of superiority manifested in an overbearing manner or in presumptuous claims or assumptions.

You and the rest of the Villa fans are arrogant! One average season (poor by Liverpool standards) and you start spouting rubbish!

Tell you what! Lets just wait and see what happens! If you finish within 10 points of us next year you win!

Until then keep dreaming.

RIGHT UP THE VILLA.... LOL

Re: Benitez Burns His Bridges

GodVilla — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:45:29 -0000

lmao, liverpool fans cant stand the fact that they are not going to win the premiership yet again! The article is very well written and totally correct that liverpool are using the media to unsettle the players because they cant afford to pay the going rate for players. how liverpool are going to be able to afford Keane and Barry is a mystery. Alsono is not going anywhere because no one wants him, carson is very very average and worth only 4 million. have already spent 9 million on a goalkeeper and a full back, so with keane and barry the total spending would be 47 million. I DONT THINK SO! even with 19 million from crouch, carson and Risse thats still 26 million and where is that coming from.

I totally agree that liverpool are financially weaker than Villa, but even as a staunch aston villa fan i have to admit liverpool have a better squad, and better players. Liverpool fans are going to have to realise that they are a club like any other in the premier league outside of the top 2.

But over a period of 5 years including last year, liverpool are stagnating at the very least and Villa are improving all the time under Martin O'Neill and liverpool are getting more desperate the longer the summer goes on.

You have NO MONEY and CANT AFFORD TO PAY 18 Million for a England player, also liverpool fans would say Gerrard is easily worth 30 to 40 million so barry is defo worth 18 mill.

I also don't see how liverpool fans think we have conducted the media games when liverpool released details of the original bid the day after they lost to Chelsea in the champions league semi final. obviously a cover for yet another average season for supposedly one of the top 4, which really is a top 2 followed by Arsenal then Liverpool.

Benitez is a very very average manager albeit a lucky one, he has spent millions on a squad full of very average players such as Pennant, Kuyt, Sissoko, Vorinin, Bellamy, aurellio, Arbeloa and Benayuon. Yes i know some are good/average premiership players but thats all how do you expect to win the league with players like that?

cant stand the arrogance shown by liverpool and their fans, all need to get over themselves! look forward to a decade of average boring football!

UP THE VILLA

Re: Benitez Burns His Bridges

Villan — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:56:20 -0000

Villa have not got more chance of winning the Premier League than Liverpool. We have both got the same chance --- NONE!!!!

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Perinho — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 06:22:18 -0000

Mate.
From that article i learned 2 things:
1) You don't know your football and
2) You have a thing against liverpool
I admit that Liverpool are in need of some replacement players (after getting rid of kewell, riise and probs crouch and xabi alonso), but it would be smarter for them not to go after players who don't fit those possies. Personally i would like to see David Villa and Xavi enter the EPL (aka Liverpool) or Jesus Navas once he gets cured of homesickness.

Re: Benitez Burns His Bridges

Michael — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 00:00:16 -0000

Randy Lerner is an American as well, you do realize that, right?

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Mighty Red — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 23:03:26 -0000

Im a Liverpool fan and one that chooses to reply in a civil manner.

When we stand next to Villa, we are ahead of them and past form can give a good reflection on what is to come but, it is not certain.

With our club in the hands of Americans, i can only see us slipping away and most Pool fans will agree with me that we need to get shot of them pair yesterday.

I would give my right arm to have Randy Lerner as chairman at pool, He could take us to the title once more. Within the next 3 - 5 years i can see Villa replacing us and Arsenal if something doesnt change soon, there is always the threat of Spurs and Everton to. We wont win the League with current circumstances and we have always fell short. im disapointed, but unlike other pool fans im not letting my pride get in the way.

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Salford Sam — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 11:11:58 -0000

Spot on article, Villa have more chance than the scousers of winning the league. Liverpool fans are deluded, one proper trophy in 18 years and they still bang on about their history! They won't win anything next season either. 3 seasons with no trophies equals another manager to try an lock horns with Fergie. Fergies seen off Dalgleish,Souness, Evans, Moran, Houillier and Benetiz is next to go. Sad whiny scousers.

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kkfla737 — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 10:00:00 -0000

Hull City has as good a chance of winning the Prem as Liverpool. It's amazing for all the arrogance of the Liverpool fans, since the formation of the Prem, Leeds and Newcastle have put up more of a fight in a given season to win the Prem and Blackburn has actually won it!

Crow all you want, but Rafa is a poor manager who got lucky in the CL his first year, and your side has wasted so much money on transfers its not even funny.

Re: Benitez Burns His Bridges

Anonymous — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 09:34:44 -0000

I am a Villa supporter. Villa and Liverpool currently have the same level of chance of winning the premiership that being very low! Only thing I would say is that Villa have a sound financial base and a first class chairman to work with rather than a feuding board and no cash!

Regarding the valuation of Barry .... the valuation needs to be the cost it takes to replace Barry... name a player that could fill Barry's shoes at Villa for less than 18m? Barry has displaced Hargreaves and Carrick from the England Team - they would attract a simliar.... .Villa want to improve and move forwards we must get a player at least equal that of Barry .... .

Anyway the rights and wrongs of this could be argued forever without conclusion ..bottom line is Barry has been valued by the club at 18m, Liverpool either pay or dont pay ...their choice. We are in a position where money is not the be all and end all to moving forward and improving the team ....

Re: Benitez Burns His Bridges

RafaTheRed — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 05:59:35 -0000

Listen Knowone!!!

Villa finished 11th and 6th in the last 2 seasons...WOW

Spurs finished 5th, 5th and last season a healthy 11th in the last 3 seasons.

Spurs have spent more money in that time than both Liverpool and Villa and I feel have a much better squad, more potential and a better manager than Villa. Last year they still couldn't make the jump from pretenders.

VILLA ARE NOT EVEN PRETENDERS YET!!! THEY DIDN'T EVEN QUALIFY FOR EUROPE (TOTO CUP ANYONE)

LIVERPOOL HAVE BEEN IN THE TOP 4 TEAMS IN THE PREMIER LEAGUE AND IN EUROPE FOR THE LAST 4 YEARS!!!

You have neither the size of squad nor quality to finish above were you finished last season and possibly won't finish there but lower down the table.

THAT'S WHY BARRY WANTS TO JOIN LIVERPOOL. CONSISTENTLY WIN CUP, CONSISTENTLY IN EUROPE, GREAT PLAYERS AND POTENTIAL TO WIN THE PREMIER LEAGUE.

WHAT FORM HAVE VILLA SHOWN OVER THE LAST 15 YEARS?

ONE VERY AVERAGE SEASON AND YOU START SPOUTING RUBBISH!!!

HOW MANY VILLA PLAYER WOULD GET INTO THE LIVERPOOL SQUAD? 1 ASHLEY YOUNG (Barry already liverpool player).

How many Liverpool players get into the Villa Team? Any of the 4 central defenders (Agger, Skertal, Hyppia and Carragher). Any 5 fullbacks (Finnan, Dossena, Aurelio, Insua and Deggan) Any 6 central midfielders (Gerrard, Macherano, Alonso, Barry, Lucas and Plessis) Crouch, kuyt, Babbel and Torres.

We have to ask the same questions about how many of the Liverpool team would get into the Utd or Chelsea side/squad! That's how we gauge were we are!

Villa are an insignificance

Re: Benitez Burns His Bridges

Michael — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 23:06:53 -0000

Well, that's a fair amount of money first of all ($6 million US), and second of all, I don't think it's splitting hairs at all. The reason Carrick and Hargreaves are in the same general range as Mascherano is simply because they're English, not because they're as good or better than Mascherano, and neither is Barry. However, when you take into account the English nationality which drives up the price, you should mention that Barry isn't based on Mascherano.

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Lonnie — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 16:24:56 -0000

Isn't it splitting hairs to say that Barry's valuation is based on Carrick/Hargreaves rather than Mascherano? All of those players cost somewhere in the £16 - 19m range in transfer fees.

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Stevo — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 13:55:06 -0000

All scousers are criminals.

Think i have made my point

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Knowone — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 10:57:37 -0000

Wow, the Plop fans really seems to have some sort of inferiority complex. Constantly rehashing all the things you have won. How about looking ahead instead? That's is the way to better yourself, not going on about some past that really doesn't matter much.

Villa knows that some serious work has to be done to challenge the top 4. Villa looks ahead. While the scousers somewhat steadily hangs on to their fourth spot, Villa's curve the last to PL seasons points very much upwards. Add to that the MON factor, a healthy economy, a role model chairman and a very exciting young squad and the assertion about Villa being more dangerous than a bankruptcy-threatened Liverpool doesn't seem quite that ludicrous.

Sorry to say, I see a very frustrating future for the scouse fans.

Re: Benitez Burns His Bridges

RafaTheRed — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 08:41:05 -0000

I’ve changed my mind!!!

What a great article! It’s so bad it’s stimulated so much debate through the paucity of its content.

Let’s be quite clear since the turn of the century Liverpool has won

2 x FA Cup
1 UEFA Cup
1 European Cup (Champions League)
2 x Super Cup
2 x League Cup

That’s an average of one major trophy every year. In fact the only trophy Liverpool haven’t won and what appears to be what the main argument is based on seems to be the Premier League Trophy.

Liverpool outside of Chelsea and Manchester United are the most successful side in the English Premier League. Arsenal have been quite baron. And in European competition Liverpool are not just the most successful English side over the past five years, but the most successful football side in European competition over the past five years…FACT.

Villa on the other hand is the most successful football side in Birmingham!!!! WOW!!!

Now there are three types of football fans! Realists, optimists and pessimists!
Villa fans you certainly are optimists. However although your fantastic 6th place finish offers you hope and non-necessity to be pessimistic, I think you really need to be more realistic. Liverpool has only finished outside the top 4 twice since the turn of the century and will be stronger again next year! Villa have lost their best player and captain, have also lost one of their best defenders and have still to buy replacements. You have a very small squad which consists of no world class players and have a manager who outside of Scotland has only won 2 League cups! Is this man capable of taking you to the next level? Which may I add is still a couple of levels short of where Liverpool are!

The top 4 will remain this year the same as the top 4 last season, which order will be decided by transfers, injuries and a little luck. Everton will remain a strong competitive side. Spurs will be a lot stronger (Ramos is a very good proven coach at the top level in a top league). As will Middlesbrough, Manchester City, Newcastle, Portsmouth and perhaps Blackburn (depending on who’s sold).

Villa will do very well to finish 6th again this season – Remember Villa finished the season quite poorly and the INTO TOTO Cup has a history of finding clubs out at the end of a long season. Especially small squads!

Re: Benitez Burns His Bridges

mark — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 07:03:00 -0000

How can Villa have more chance of the premiership than Liverpool. You finished 16 points behind us. As for using the Echo to unsettle players by letting them know they are interested, what bollocks. They have made 3 bids for Barry. I am sure he knows from this that Liverpool are interested.

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byrneitez — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 05:37:08 -0000

hey walter im irish what was that suppose to mean united fans are glory supporters they hibernate until they win something then there everywhere with there jerseys and there shitetalking filthy mancs why is it that nearly every man u fan i know is a gobshite is that the criteria to be a man u fan also shite article who ever wrote this isnt good enough to write a school paper

Re: Benitez Burns His Bridges

Best — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:41:11 -0000

liverpool wants to sign barry.
barry wants to join liverpool.
Martin O'Neil puts too much price on barry.
Mr.Martin O'Neil is too greedy.
too greedy
too greedy
too greedy
idiot!

Re: Benitez Burns His Bridges

Michael — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:09:25 -0000

Excuse me, Jeremiah, actually if you'd bother to read all the comments, you'd see that most people were saying Barry's price was based on what Liverpool paid for Mascherano.

You lose a bit of credibility for being ignorant, because I wasn't criticizing the original article at all; in fact, I was trying to clarify something that many people didn't seem to understand.

Before you spout off again, make sure you read everything written first. Thanks.

Re: Benitez Burns His Bridges

Jeremiah — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:35:10 -0000

I love Liverpool fans. "Villa finishing above Liverpool? You're having a laugh. We've got fourth or fifth place sewn up!"
I'm glad they've set their goals so high.
Also, I think it's been well-established that the Barry valuation is based on Carrick and Hargreave's fees - comparable players and behind Barry on the English pecking order. You lose a bit of credibility if you criticize an article for bad information with bad information of your own.
I'll be laughing when Liverpool have to sell off their players to pay their debts and join Leeds in the Championship (assuming they can get promoted to the Championship in the next three years).

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Janindra, Thailand — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:30:30 -0000

if you put a high asking price for barry, what happens if liverpool puts a high price any every player Martin O'Neil (MON) wants from liverpool? that means aston villa could not trade with liverpool any more. we will put a high price for our players as well. i think MON is too greedy!

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Wythenshaw Walter — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:36:17 -0000

As a Man United fan I agree about Villa. They are defo a bigger threat to the real league contenders than Liverpool. I hope Villa screw them for every penny they have, they are a club without any class, they have the scruffiest trakkie wearing fans in the country although to be fair the vast majority of them are Irish.

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Toby Tyke — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:19:15 -0000

Mr Bestall what a superb bit of s##t stirring.
Boy do the scousers take themselves serious.
Get over yourselves, your team won nothing this season and after seeing your strength in depth goalkeeper Charles Slack -handsja blow it to little old Barnsley in the FA Cup you need to spend far more to strengthen your squad than you think. I can see a lot more years of frustration to come I'm afraid.