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With Alexander Hleb’s agent orchestrating ice cream flirtations with Inter and Mathieu Flamini stalling over signing a new Arsenal contract, Arsene Wenger has urged his young stars not to leave the club for more money.
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That is what i try to tell the chairman
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He might look flash when he is weaving & dribbling around players, but what is the point if he then gives the ball to an opposition player.
I'd like to see the statistics on the percentage of disposals he made that went straight to an opposition player.
I simply don't rate him one bit, Arsene should take whatever money is on offer for him & replace him with a shop manequin, we'd be better off.
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A real stats guru would use pro-zone stats etc. which show that Hleb is the best player in the Premier League.
I was using a simple analysis of how many goals he creates, which is not many. That should be the goal of all of this beautiful play. To put the ball in the net. He doesn't do it very often and he doesn't create many opportunities for others. What is important about his attacking play if it doesn't lead to results?
1 year ago
The player Billy refers to that attack and equally can defend was Lassana Diarra. IMO Diarra is the more dynamic footballer however Flamini is no doubt a very very good defensive midfielder. Why else is there legitimate links with him to Milan and the possibility that Gattuso may leave the San Siro? Diaby is indeed a good footballer however he has played out of position all year and TBH i think Song is the better option in midfield with Gilberto already stating he is leaving and with the rumours surrounding Flamini.
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the piece on Hleb is spot on though
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Sorry.
Lets all move on.
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I mean Hleb more effective than FAB? I'm sure you're not watching Arsenal games.
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They are very necessary!
And none of them will leave.
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I like Hleb, but I think he is replacable. Preferably with someone who can score too.
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Who do you compare him to? Ashley Young, and he looks dismal. Compare him to Nani, and he's King. Compare him to Salomon Kalou and he ain't too bad.
But the sad truth is that Mr. Hleb hasn't set the EPL alight. But then he isn't our main creative player. As an auxiliary he hasn't done badly at all.
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when the ball is on his feet, you can see how much trouble he cause to the defenders and eventually how much space is created to his team mates!!
without Hleb on the pitch, Cesc won't be that effective.
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I love the intangibles Flamini brings to the team with his work rate and leadership but he does not deserve superstar money so if that is what is being offered from other teams then sadly he should go.
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Arsenal doesn't need either of those two to be successful. They have capable replacements waiting in the wings.
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Raping Africa and Eastern Europe for young talent at cut rate prices doesn't work in the long run. Either sell that talent and grow the coffers or keep them happy and match the going rate of the competition
1 year ago
but i do think he will leave.
as for flamini, i think flamini is a very good player moving forward actually. he is one of our better passers and he's scored some important goals for us over the years. he covers the most distance every game. He is very instrumental in our passing. Very. His passing is also very consistent - he has attempted the 2nd most passes in the Premier League this season, with a higher completion rate than the 1st place player, his midfield partner Fabregas. You can look that up. He is like a Dirk Kuyt or Gary Neville, but more competent. He's a player not afraid to get injured for us to win. He rarely makes mistakes. Flamini is also more successful than Mescherano is tacklining since he gets less cards than Mescherano and he doesnt have a loose canon for a mouth. He shows a sense leadership as well. I believe he is a potential captain for this team. Arsenal need to keep him.
Why does liverpool and manUre keep kuyt and neville? They aren't the best players United can put on the field, but they are still kept on the team. Something has to be said about keeping the chemistry and morale high within the squad. Flamini is friends with Fabregas and Rosicky. They triplet has been seen at many events together and they seem to flock next to each other on the sidelines. With Fabregas calling on Wenger to keep Flamini, Flamini is essential to maintain the morale. Something also has to be said about squad depth. We will probably lose Gilberto and if we lose Flamini, we will be down to Abou Diaby and Denilson, two unproven candidates for the position along side Fabregas. We need to keep Flamini to keep a proven option in the starting eleven.
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As far as Hleb, he does make attacking runs, but I don't think that equates to causing defenses problems. For an attacking winger or secondary striker or wherever his position is, he neither scores nor creates many goals. He does not cause defenses to break down because teams know he won't shoot and because his passing in the box is rarely useful.
I agree with the comments about Flamini, but I don't think he is irreplaceable. You might remember that seven months ago Flamini was not a proven option in midfield, he was rumored to be sold to Birmingham.
I don't see Dirk Kuyt as being a justification for keeping Flamini either. Kuyt has his games, but most often he is simply a shit, unskillful striker.
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like i said, hleb will probably leave. there isnt a very strong argument about keeping him except maintaing some depth in the squad.
flamini isnt irreplaceable. of course. we can always go out and sign a player in his place for 20 million pounds like xavi or gattuso but if we have flamini now, wouldnt it be better to keep him? there is no debate over his admirable perfomance this year and there is no question that we need him.
if flamini goes, it would be on his own terms, seeking out more money. that is understanable. a footballer's career is short and one rash tackle away from being ruined. if he leaves it wouldnt be surprising, but it is not because of us letting him go because we think we dont need him. wenger has to maintain a sound approach to salaries. if he gives flamini more, then other players will want more and these kind of things can lead a team to bankruptcy.
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